Talk HPB
This tutorial is for Debian users who want or need to spin up a high performance back-end for Nextcloud Talk. This helps with multi-user calls and/or nasty NAT situations. Here's the layout:
| Role | Bind | Public |
|---|---|---|
| Signaling | 127.0.0.1:8088 → container 8081 | https://talk.haacksnetworking.org (Apache) |
| TURN | 0.0.0.0:3478/tcp + 3478/udp | talk.haacksnetworking.org:3478 |
We will use the following image:
ghcr.io/nextcloud-releases/aio-talk:latest This image is basically signaling, NATS, Janus, and eturnal. Let's make sure the host is setup properly.
We need to open turn on udp 3478 and its fallback, tcp 3478. This helps clients behind nasty NAT. The signaling stays on localhost. Let's open the ports:
ufw allow 3478/tcp ufw allow 3478/udp
mkdir -p ~/talk-hpb umask 077 openssl rand -hex 32 > ~/talk-hpb/signaling.secret openssl rand -hex 32 > ~/talk-hpb/turn.secret openssl rand -hex 32 > ~/talk-hpb/internal.secret
Keep these stable for yearly or longer rotations. No need to rotate if no compromise is suspected, etc., and usage is tightly monitored and restricted.
Create the quadlet for monitoring and starting/stopping the service as the worker user nano ~/.config/containers/systemd/container-talk-hpb.container
mkdir -p ~/.config/containers/systemd cat > ~/.config/containers/systemd/container-talk-hpb.container << 'EOF' [Container] ContainerName=talk-hpb Image=ghcr.io/nextcloud-releases/aio-talk:latest PublishPort=127.0.0.1:8088:8081 PublishPort=3478:3478/tcp PublishPort=3478:3478/udp Environment=NC_DOMAIN=cloud.haacksnetworking.org Environment=TALK_HOST=talk.haacksnetworking.org Environment=TALK_PORT=3478 Environment=TZ=America/Denver Environment=TURN_SECRET=replace-with-your-turn-secret Environment=SIGNALING_SECRET=replace-with-your-signaling-secret Environment=INTERNAL_SECRET=replace-with-your-internal-secret Environment=SKIP_CERT_VERIFY=false PodmanArgs=--init --cpus=2 --memory=4g [Service] Restart=always TimeoutStopSec=120 [Install] WantedBy=default.target EOF systemctl --user daemon-reload systemctl --user reset-failed container-talk-hpb.service systemctl --user start container-talk-hpb.service sleep 25
The HPB container can only be built with one endpoint when it is updated, so the following is needed to add xx amount of endpoints to use the HPB with:
podman exec talk-hpb sh -c '
printf "\n[backend-2]\nurls = https://cloud.gnulinux.vip\nsecret = replace-with-your-signaling-secret\nmaxstreambitrate = 1048576\nmaxscreenbitrate = 2097152\n" >> /conf/signaling.conf
printf "\n[backend-3]\nurls = https://inside.outsidebox.club\nsecret = replace-with-your-signaling-secret\nmaxstreambitrate = 1048576\nmaxscreenbitrate = 2097152\n" >> /conf/signaling.conf
printf "\n[backend-4]\nurls = https://cloud.friend.info\nsecret = replace-with-your-signaling-secret\nmaxstreambitrate = 1048576\nmaxscreenbitrate = 2097152\n" >> /conf/signaling.conf
sed -i "s/backends = backend-1/backends = backend-1, backend-2, backend-3, backend-4/" /conf/signaling.conf
'
podman exec talk-hpb sh -c 'kill $(ps | awk "/nextcloud-spreed-signaling|[s]ignaling/{print \$1; exit}")'
podman exec talk-hpb grep -A5 '^\[backend' /conf/signaling.conf
When you run this, you get something like:
[backend] backends = backend-1, backend-2, backend-3, backend-4 ... [backend-1] urls = https://cloud.haacksnetworking.org ... [backend-2] urls = https://cloud.gnulinux.vip ... [backend-3] urls = https://inside.outsidebox.club ... [backend-4] urls = https://cloud.friend.info
Once your back-ends are all specified, let's verify the service is healthy and the api endpoint is reachable:
systemctl --user is-active container-talk-hpb.service
podman inspect talk-hpb --format '{{.Name}} cpus={{.HostConfig.NanoCpus}} memory={{.HostConfig.Memory}}'
curl -sI http://127.0.0.1:8088/standalone-signaling/api/v1/welcome
We should see something like active, cpus=2000000000, memory=4294967296, and an HTTP response from the welcome endpoint.
Let's create an upgrade script at nano /usr/local/bin/upgrade-high-performance.sh. Inside it, let's put something like this:
#!/bin/bash
set -euo pipefail
export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/$(id -u)
export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=${XDG_RUNTIME_DIR}/bus
podman pull ghcr.io/nextcloud-releases/aio-talk:latest
systemctl --user stop container-talk-hpb.service
systemctl --user daemon-reload
systemctl --user reset-failed container-talk-hpb.service
systemctl --user start container-talk-hpb.service
sleep 25
podman exec talk-hpb sh -c '
printf "\n[backend-2]\nurls = https://cloud.gnulinux.vip\nsecret = replace-with-your-signaling-secret\nmaxstreambitrate = 1048576\nmaxscreenbitrate = 2097152\n" >> /conf/signaling.conf
printf "\n[backend-3]\nurls = https://inside.outsidebox.club\nsecret = replace-with-your-signaling-secret\nmaxstreambitrate = 1048576\nmaxscreenbitrate = 2097152\n" >> /conf/signaling.conf
printf "\n[backend-4]\nurls = https://cloud.friend.info\nsecret = replace-with-your-signaling-secret\nmaxstreambitrate = 1048576\nmaxscreenbitrate = 2097152\n" >> /conf/signaling.conf
sed -i "s/backends = backend-1/backends = backend-1, backend-2, backend-3, backend-4/" /conf/signaling.conf
'
podman exec talk-hpb sh -c 'kill $(ps | awk "/nextcloud-spreed-signaling|[s]ignaling/{print \$1; exit}")'
curl -sI http://127.0.0.1:8088/standalone-signaling/api/v1/welcome
If your curl output is unhealthy, stop and debug before proceeding.
We can now setup our reverse proxy and associated virtual hosts and Let's Encrypt cert:
sudo a2enmod proxy proxy_http proxy_wstunnel headers rewrite ssl authz_host sudo certbot certonly --apache -d talk.haacksnetworking.org
Inside nano /etc/apache2/sites-available/talk.haacksnetworking.org.conf let's put something like:
<VirtualHost *:80>
ServerName talk.haacksnetworking.org
RewriteEngine On
RewriteRule ^ https://%{SERVER_NAME}%{REQUEST_URI} [END,NE,R=permanent]
</VirtualHost>
And, inside the TLS virtual host, nano /etc/apache2/sites-available/talk.haacksnetworking.org-ssl.conf let's drop something like:
<VirtualHost *:443>
ServerName talk.haacksnetworking.org
ServerAdmin support@haacksnetworking.org
SSLEngine on
SSLCertificateFile /etc/letsencrypt/live/talk.haacksnetworking.org/fullchain.pem
SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/letsencrypt/live/talk.haacksnetworking.org/privkey.pem
Include /etc/letsencrypt/options-ssl-apache.conf
ProxyPreserveHost On
RequestHeader set X-Forwarded-Proto "https"
RequestHeader set X-Forwarded-Port "443"
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP:Upgrade} websocket [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP:Connection} upgrade [NC]
RewriteRule ^/?(.*) ws://127.0.0.1:8088/$1 [P,L]
ProxyPass / http://127.0.0.1:8088/
ProxyPassReverse / http://127.0.0.1:8088/
ErrorLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/talk.haacksnetworking.org-error.log
CustomLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/talk.haacksnetworking.org-access.log combined
</VirtualHost>
Once the virtual hosts are built, let's enable it, check the config, and then check the endpoint.
a2ensite talk.haacksnetworking.org.conf apache2ctl configtest && systemctl reload apache2 curl -sI http://talk.haacksnetworking.org/ curl -sI https://talk.haacksnetworking.org/
Check your output and make sure everything is accessible and running. If not, debug until it works. FYI, the endpoint for clients is wss://talk.haacksnetworking.org/spreed. More updates if/when rebuilds are done will be posted. Reach out on Matrix if you have questions.
— oemb1905 2026/10/10 05:16