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-[Spoiler Alert: I changed the initial setup!  Read below to skip the pain!]+//vmserver//      
  
-I have a dual 8-core Xeon SuperMicro server, with 8 HD bays in use, 96GBRAM, SAS to SATA SCU for the hard drives.  I calculated that for a 500W PSU, that the RAM would be around 360W at capacity but rarely hit that or even close, that the HDs would often (especially on boot) hit up to 21.3W per drive, or around 150W excluding the boot SSD volume.  The motherboard would be 100W, putting me at 610W.  This is over, however, I don't expect all the RAM and all the HDs to reach peak, even on boot.  After testing and confirming it worked, I went on to OS and setup.  I installed Debian on the 120GB SSD, and as for the other 7 drives, my initial idea was to do LUKS first, then zfs, meaning 6 could be mirrors in zfs and I would keep 1 as a spare LUKS crypt for keys, other crap, etc.  To create the LUKS crypts, I did the following 6 times, each time appending the last 4 digits of the block ID to the LUKS crypt name:+-------------------------------------------
  
-  cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/sda +I was given a dual 8-core Xeon SuperMicro server (32 threads), with 8 HD bays in use, 96GBRAM, 8x 6TB Western Digital in Raid1 zfs mirror (24TB actual), with a 120GBSSD boot volume stuck behind the power front panel running non-GUI Debian. (Thanks to Kilo Sierra for the donation.) My first job was to calculate whether my PSU was up to the task I intended for it. I used a 500W PSU. From my calculationsI determined that the RAM would be around 360W at capacity but rarely hit that or even close, that the HDs would often (especially on boot) hit up to 21.3W per drive, or around 150W total, and that excluded the boot SSD volume. The motherboard would be 100W, putting me at 610W. Since I did not expect the RAM, HDs, and other physical components to concurrently hit peak consumption, I considered it safe to proceed, and figured no more than around 75% of that ceiling would be used at any one time. The next step was to install the physical host OS (Debian) and setup the basics of the system (hostname, DNS, etc., basic package installs). On the 120GB SSD boot volume, I used a luks / pam_mount encrypted home directory, where I could store keys for the zfs pool and/or other sensitive data. I used a nifty trick in order to first create the pools simply with short names, and then magically change them to block ids without having to make the pool creation syntax cumbersome.
-  cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda sdafc11 +
-   +
-You then make sure to use the LUKS label names when making the zpool, not the short names, which can change at times during reboots I did this as follows:+
  
-  sudo apt install zfs-utils +**Update**: I am now running newer server with 48 threads12 hard drive bays384GB RAM, 4 two-way mirrors of Samsung enterprise SSDs for the primary vm zpool, and 2 two-way mirrors of 16TB platters for the backup zpool and for some mailserversThese are also SAS hard drives nownot SATAThe server can handle 1.5TB of RAM.
-  zpool create -m /mnt/vms vms -f mirror sdafc11 sdb9322 mirror sdc8a33 sdh6444 mirror sde5b55 sdf8066 +
-   +
-ZFS by default mount at boot.  This is problem if you don't use auto-unlocking and key files with LUKS to also unlock on boot (and/or a custom script that unlocks).  The problemin this use casesis ZFS will try to mount the volumes before they are unlocked.  The two other options are none/legacy modes, both of which rely on you mounting the volume using traditional methods.  But, the whole point of using zfs finally was to not use traditional methods lol, so for that reason I investigated if there was a fix.  The closest to a fix is setting cachefile=none boot, but this a) hosed the pool once b) requires resettingrebooting again and/or manually re-mounting the pool - either of which defeat the point Using key filescache file adjustments, etc., and/or none/legacy were all no-gos for me, so in the end, I decided to tolerate that zfs would fail at boot, and that I would ''zpool import'' it afterwards.+
  
-  sudo -i +  zpool create -m /mnt/pool pool -f mirror sda sdb mirror sdc sdh mirror sde sdf mirror sdg sdh 
-  screen +  zpool export pool 
-  su user [pam_mount unlocks /home for physical host primary user and the spare 1TB vault] +  zpool import -/dev/disk/by-id pool
-  ctrl-a-d [detaches from screen] +
-   +
-After unlocking my home directory and the spare 1TB vault, the next step is to unlock each LUKS volume, which I decided a simple shell script would suffice which looks like this mount-luks.sh:+
  
-  cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/disk/by-uuid/2702e690-...-0c4267a6fc11 sdafc11 +Now that pool was created, I created two encrypted datasets, which is zfs name for encrypted file storage inside the poolThe datasets each unlock by pulling a dd-generated key from the encrypted (and separate) home partition on the SSD boot volumeI set up the keys/datasets as follows:
-  cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/disk/by-uuid/e3b568ad-...-cdc5dedb9322 sdb9322 +
-  cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/disk/by-uuid/d353e727-...-e4d66a9b8a33 sdc8a33 +
-  cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/disk/by-uuid/352660ca-...-5a8beae15b44 sde5b44 +
-  cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/disk/by-uuid/fa1a6109-...-f46ce1cf8055 sdf8055 +
-  cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/disk/by-uuid/86da0b9f-...-13bc38656466 sdh6466+
  
-This script simply opens each LUKS crypt so long as you enter or copy/paste your HD password 6 times.  After that, one has to re-mount the pool rebuild the quasi RAID1 mirror/logical volumes with the import command as follows once the volumes are opened: +  dd if=/dev/random of=/secure/area/example.key bs=1 count=32 
- +  zfs create -o encryption=on -o keyformat=raw -o keylocation=file:///mnt/vault/example.key pool/dataset
-  zpool import vms +
-   +
-Rebooting in this manner takes about 3-5 minutes for the host, and 2 minutes to screen into my user name, detach, and run the mount LUKS script (which also ends the script by importing the pool).  The above was the original setup.  I changed that below. +
- +
--- Alternate Setup -- +
- +
-Eventually, I ended up agreeing with a friend that it made no sense to do LUKS first because that would preclude me from rebuilding degraded pools using zfs tools.  This is because, if a drive failed, then the pool could never be imported, and thus never used without very complicated tinkering.  So, I destroyed the LUKS pools above, made a zfs pool with the same command structure but used the regular short-names only.  Then, after that, I created two datasets (zfs' name for encrypted folders inside pools/mountpoints for LVM mirrors) The datasets each unlock by pulling a dd-generated key from the encrypted home partition on the SSD boot volume.  I set up the keys/datasets as follows:+
  
-  dd if=/dev/random of=/mnt/vault/example.key bs=1 count=32 +When you create this on the current running instance, it will also mount it for you as a courtesy, but upon reboot, you need to load the key, then mount the dataset using zfs commands. In my case, I created three datasets (one for raw isos, one for disk images, and a last one for backup sparse tarballs). Each one was created as follows:
-  zfs create -o encryption=on -o keyformat=raw -o keylocation=file:///mnt/vault/example.key pool/dataset +
-   +
-When you create this on the current running instance, it will also mount it for you as a courtesy, but upon reboot, you need to load the key, then mount the dataset using zfs commands.  In my case, I created three datasets (one for raw isos, one for disk images, and a last one for backup sparse tarballs).  Each one was created as follows:+
  
   zfs load-key pool/dataset   zfs load-key pool/dataset
   zfs mount pool/dataset   zfs mount pool/dataset
      
-Once I created all the datasets, I made a script that would load the keys and unlock all of them, then rebooted and tested it for functionality.  Upon verifying that the datasets worked, I could now feel comfortable creating VMs again, since the hard drive images for those VMs would be stored in encrypted datasets with zfs.  My next task was to create both snapshots within zfs, which would handle routine rollbacks and smaller errors/mistakes.  I did that by creating a small script that runs via cron 4 times a day, or every 6 hours:+Once I created all the datasets, I made a script that would load the keys and unlock all of them, then rebooted and tested it for functionality. Upon verifying that the datasets worked, I could now feel comfortable creating VMs again, since the hard drive images for those VMs would be stored in encrypted datasets with zfs. My next task was to create both snapshots within zfs, which would handle routine rollbacks and smaller errors/mistakes. I did that by creating a small script that runs via cron 4 times a day, or every 6 hours:
  
-  DATE=`date +"%Y%m%d-%H:%M:%S"+  DATE=date +"%Y%m%d-%H:%M:%S"
   /usr/sbin/zfs snapshot -r pool/vm1dataset@backup_$DATE   /usr/sbin/zfs snapshot -r pool/vm1dataset@backup_$DATE
   /usr/sbin/zfs snapshot -r pool/vm2dataset@backup_$DATE   /usr/sbin/zfs snapshot -r pool/vm2dataset@backup_$DATE
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   /usr/sbin/zfs snapshot pool@backup_$DATE   /usr/sbin/zfs snapshot pool@backup_$DATE
  
-The snapshots allow me to perform roll backs when end-users make mistakes, e.g., delete an instructional video after a class session, etc., or what have you.  However, if the data center is compromised physically or their upstream goes down, I also need remote/failover options, so my next task was to find a way to easily take advantage of cp's understanding of sparse files and tar so that I could easily use rsync to bring over tarballs of the VM disks that only utilized actual datainstead of the entire 1TB container.  To do this, I used the ''c'' and ''S'' flags in tartogether with bzip2 compression for speedin order to provide myself remote/failover options I did this as followsand take care when adjusting this scriptas most alterations will break the ability of tar to properly treat the .img file as sparse: +The snapshots allow me to perform roll backs when end-users make mistakes, e.g., delete an instructional video after a class session, etc., or what have you.  To delete all snapshots and start over, run: 
 + 
 +  zfs list -H -o name -t snapshot | xargs -n1 zfs destroy 
 + 
 +Of course, off-site backups are essential. To do this, I use a small script that powers down the VM, uses ''cp'' with the ''--sparse=always'' flag to preserve spaceand then uses tar with pbzip2 ''sudo apt install pbzip2'' compression to save even more space. From my researchbsdtar seems to honor sparsity better than gnutar so install that with ''sudo apt install libarchive-tools''The ''cp'' command is not optionalmoreoverfor remember tar will not work directly on an ''.img'' file. Here's a small shell script with a loop for multiple VMs within the same directory. I also added a command at the end that will delete any tarballs older than 180 days.
  
   DATE=`date +"%Y%m%d-%H:%M:%S"`   DATE=`date +"%Y%m%d-%H:%M:%S"`
-  cd /backups +  IMG="vm1.img  vm2.img" 
-  cp -ar /vms/vol.img /backups/vol.img_QUICK_.bak +  for i in $IMG; 
-  bsdtar --use-compress-program=pbzip2 -Scf vol.img_QUICK_.tar.bz2 vol.img_QUICK_.bak +  do 
-  mv /backups/vol.img_QUICK_.tar.bz2 /backups/tbs/vol.img_QUICK_$DATE.tar.bz2 +  virsh shutdown $i 
-  rm /backups/vol.img_QUICK_.bak+  wait 
 +  cd /mnt/vms/backups 
 +  cp -ar --sparse=always /mnt/vms/students/$i /mnt/vms/backups/SANE_$i.bak 
 +  wait 
 +  virsh start $i 
 +  bsdtar --use-compress-program=pbzip2 -Scf SANE_$i.tar.bz2 SANE_$i.bak 
 +  mv /mnt/vms/backups/SANE_$i.tar.bz2 /mnt/vms/backups/tarballs/$i:_SANE_$DATE:_.tar.bz2 
 +  rm /mnt/vms/backups/SANE_$i.bak 
 +  find /mnt/vms/backups/tarballs -type f -mtime +180 -delete
  
-In addition to daily live images using the above, script, I also run a 1/3 days version called 'SANE' , which runs ''virsh shutdown domain'' before copying/tarballing and then runs ''virsh start domain'' at the end of the tarballing.  After these runpull the changes to offsite backup computer using rsync on the offsite host as follows:    +The script above can be downloaded here [[https://repo.haacksnetworking.org/oemb1905/haackingclub/-/blob/master/scripts/sane-vm-backup.sh|sane-vm-backup.sh]]. I use multiple copies of the loop script for related groups of VMs on the same physical hostand then stagger when they run with cron to limit simultaneous read/write time as follows:
  
-  sudo rsync -av --log-file=/home/logs/backup-of-vm.log --ignore-existing -e 'ssh -i /home/user/.ssh/id_rsa' root@domain.com:/backups/tarballs/ /media/user/Backups/+  #backup student machines, client machines  
 +  00 03 1,15 * * /usr/local/bin/sane-vm-backup-students.sh >> /root/sane-vm-backup-students.log 
 +  00 03 2,16 * * /usr/local/bin/sane-vm-backup-clients.sh >> /root/sane-vm-backup-clients.log 
 + 
 +On the off-site backup machine, I pull the tarballs down using a one line rsync script. I adjust the cron timing of the rsync script to work well with when the tarballs are created. 
 + 
 +  sudo rsync -av --log-file=/home/logs/backup-of-vm-tarballs.log --ignore-existing -e 'ssh -i /home/user/.ssh/id_rsa' root@domain.com:/backups/tarballs/ /media/user/Backups/ 
 + 
 +The off-site backup workstation uses rsnapshot, which provides me with months of restore points and thus provides version control for if/when errors are not caught immediately.  
 + 
 +**** 
 + 
 +-- Network Bridge Setup / VMs -- 
 + 
 +Up until now, I've covered how to provision the machines with virt-manager, how to backup the machines on the physical host, and how to pull those backups to an off-site workstation. Now I will discuss how to assign each VM an external IP. The first step is to provision the physical host with a virtual switch (wrongly called a bridge) to which VMs can connect. To do this, I kept it simple and used ''ifup'' and ''bridge-utils'' package and some manual editing in ''/etc/network/interfaces''.
      
-Since the workstation is on rsnapshot, I get redundant dailies on its backup that extend beyond the quantity on the physical host (because of space on my primary workstation)+  sudo apt install bridge-utils 
 +  sudo brctl addbr br0 
 +  sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces 
 + 
 +Now that you have added created the virtual switch, you need to reconfigure your physical host's ''/etc/network/interfaces'' file to use the switch. In my case, I used 1 IP for the host itself, and another for the switch, meaning that two ethernet cables are plugged into my physical host. I did this so that if I hose my virtual switch settings, I still have a separate connection to the box. Here's the configuration in ''interfaces'': 
 + 
 +  #eth0  [1st physical port] 
 +  auto ent8s0g0 
 +    iface ent8s0f0 inet static 
 +    address 8.25.76.160 
 +    netmask 255.255.255.0 
 +    gateway 8.25.76.1 
 +    nameserver 8.8.8.8 
 + 
 +  #eth1 [2nd physical port] 
 +  auto enp8s0g1 
 +  iface enp8s0g1 inet manual 
 + 
 +  auto br0 
 +  iface br0 inet static 
 +    address 8.25.76.159 
 +    netmask 255.255.255.0 
 +    gateway 8.25.76.1 
 +    bridge_ports enp8s0g1 
 +    nameserver 8.8.8.8 
 +     
 +After that, either reboot or ''systemctl restart networking.service'' to make the changes current. Execute ''ip a'' and you should see both external IPs on two separate interfaces, and you should see ''br0 state UP'' in the output of the second interface ''enp8s0g1''. You should also run some ''ping 8.8.8.8'' and ''ping google.com'' tests to confirm you can route. If anyone wants to do this in a home, small business, or other non-public facing environment, you can easily use dhcp and provision the home/small business server's ''interface'' file as follows: 
 + 
 +  auto eth1 
 +  iface eth1 inet manual 
 + 
 +  auto br0 
 +  iface br0 inet dhcp 
 +        bridge_ports eth1 
 + 
 +The above home-version allows, for example, users to have a virtual machine that gets an ip address on your LAN and makes ssh/xrdp access far easier. If you have any trouble routing on the physical host, it could be that you do not have nameservers setup. If that's the case, do the following: 
 + 
 +    echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf 
 +    systemctl restart networking.service 
 + 
 +Now that the virtual switch is setup, I can now provision VMs and connect them to the virtual switch ''br0'' in virt-manager. You can provision the VMs within the GUI using X passthrough, or use the command line. First, create a virtual disk to your desired size by excuting ''sudo qemu-img create -f raw new 1000G'' and then run something like this: 
 + 
 +  sudo virt-install --name=new.img \ 
 +  --os-type=Linux \ 
 +  --os-variant=debian10 \ 
 +  --vcpu=1 \ 
 +  --ram=2048 \ 
 +  --disk path=/mnt/vms/students/new.img \ 
 +  --graphics spice \ 
 +  --location=/mnt/vms/isos/debian-11.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso \ 
 +  --network bridge:br0 
 + 
 +The machine will open in virt-viewer, but if you lose the connection you can reconnect easily with: 
 + 
 +  virt-viewer --connect qemu:///system --wait new.img  
 +   
 +Once you finish installation, configure the guestOS interfaces file ''sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces'' with the IP you intend to assign it. You should have something like this: 
 + 
 +  auto epr1 
 +  iface epr1 inet static 
 +    address 8.25.76.158 
 +    netmask 255.255.255.0 
 +    gateway 8.25.76.1 
 +    nameservers 8.8.8.8 
 + 
 +If you are creating VMs attached to a virtual switch on the smaller home/business environment, then adjust the guest OS by executing ''sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces'' and then something like this recipe: 
 + 
 +  auto epr1 
 +  iface epr1 inet dhcp 
 + 
 +If your guest OS uses Ubuntu, you will need to do extra steps to ensure that the guestOS can route. This is because Ubuntu-based distros have deprecated ''ifupdown'' in favor of ''netplan'' and disabled manual editing of ''/etc/resolv.conf''. So, either you want to learn netplan syntax and make interface changes using its YAML derivative, or you can install the optional ''resolvconf'' package to restore ''ifupdown'' functionality. To do this, adjust the VM provision script above (or use the virt-manager GUI with X passthrough) to temporarily use NAT then override Ubuntu defaults and restore ''ifupdown'' functionality as follows: 
 + 
 +  sudo apt install ifupdown 
 +  sudo apt remove --purge netplan.io 
 +  sudo apt install resolvconf 
 +  sudo nano /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail 
 +  <nameserver 8.8.8.8> 
 +  systemctl restart networking.service 
 + 
 +You should once again execute ''ping 8.8.8.8'' and ''ping google.com'' to confirm you can route within the guest OS. Sometimes, I find a reboot is required. At this stage, you now have a physical host configured with a virtual switch, and one VM provisioned to use the switch with its own external IP. Both the physical host and guest OS in this scenario are public facing so take precautions to properly secure each by checking services ''netstat -tulpn'' and/or utilizing a firewall. The main things to configure at this point are ssh access so you no longer need to rely on the virt-viewer console which is slow. To do that, you will need to add packages (if you use the netinst.iso). To make that easy, I keep the sources.list on my primary business server:  
 + 
 +  wget https://haacksnetworking.org/sources.list 
 + 
 +Once you grab the ''sources.list'' file, install ''openssh-server'' and exchange keys, you can now use a shell to ssh into the guestOS henceforward. This means that at this point you are now in a position to create VMs and various production environments at will or start working on the one you just created. Another thing to consider is to create base VMs that have ''interfaces'' and ''ssh'' access all ready to go, and then leverage those to make new instances using ''cp''. Alternately, you can power down a base VM and then clone it as follows: 
 + 
 +  virt-clone \ 
 +  --original=clean \ 
 +  --name=sequoia \ 
 +  --file=/mnt/vms/students/sequoia.img 
 + 
 +The purpose of this project was to create my own virtualized VPS infrastructure (using KVM and VMs), to run my own production environments and for clients, students, and family. Here's a few to check out: 
 + 
 +  * [[https://nextcloud.haacksnetworking.org|Haack's Networking - Nextcloud Talk Instance]] 
 +  * [[https://mrhaack.org|GNU/Linux Social - Mastodon Instance]] 
 +  * [[http://space.hackingclub.org|My Daughter's Space Website]] 
 +  * [[http://bianca.hackingclub.org|A Student's Pentesting Website]] 
 + 
 +That's all folks! Well ... except for one more thing. When I first did all of this, I was convinced that zfs should be within LUKS as it was difficult for me to let go of LUKS / full disk encryption. I've now decided that's insane because of one primary reason. Namely, by putting zfs (or any file system) within LUKS, you lose the hot swapability that you have when zfs (or regular RAID) run directly on the hardware. That would mean that replacing a hard drive would require an entire server rebuild, which is insane. However, it is arguably more secure that way, so if budget and time permits, I've retained how I put zfs inside LUKS in the passage that follows. Proceed at your own risk lol. 
 + 
 +-- LUKS FIRST, ZFS SECOND - (LEGACY SETUP, NOT CURRENT) -- 
 + 
 +My initial idea was to do LUKS first, then zfs, meaning 6 could be mirrors in zfs and I would keep 1 as a spare LUKS crypt for keys, other crap, etc. To create the LUKS crypts, I did the following 6 times, each time appending the last 4 digits of the block ID to the LUKS crypt name: 
 + 
 +  cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/sda 
 +  cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda sdafc11 
 + 
 +You then make sure to use the LUKS label names when making the zpool, not the short names, which can change at times during reboots. I did this as follows: 
 + 
 +  sudo apt install zfs-utils bridge-utils 
 +  zpool create -m /mnt/vms vms -f mirror sdafc11 sdb9322 mirror sdc8a33 sdh6444 mirror sde5b55 sdf8066 
 +   
 +ZFS by default executes its mount commands at boot. This is a problem if you don't use auto-unlocking and key files with LUKS to also unlock on boot (and/or a custom script that unlocks). The problem, in this use cases, is ZFS will try to mount the volumes before they are unlocked. The two other options are none/legacy modes, both of which rely on you mounting the volume using traditional methods. But, the whole point of using zfs finally was to not use traditional methods lol, so for that reason I investigated if there was a fix. The closest to a fix is setting cachefile=none boot, but this a) hosed the pool once b) requires resetting, rebooting again and/or manually re-mounting the pool - either of which defeat the point. Using key files, cache file adjustments, etc., and/or none/legacy were all no-gos for me, so in the end, I decided to tolerate that zfs would fail at boot, and that I would ''zpool import'' it afterwards. 
 +   
 +  sudo -i 
 +  screen 
 +  su - user [pam_mount unlocks /home for physical host primary user and the spare 1TB vault] 
 +  ctrl-a-d [detaches from screen] 
 + 
 +After unlocking my home directory and the spare 1TB vault, the next step is to unlock each LUKS volume, which I decided a simple shell script would suffice which looks like this mount-luks.sh: 
 + 
 +  cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/disk/by-uuid/2702e690-…-0c4267a6fc11 sdafc11 
 +  cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/disk/by-uuid/e3b568ad-…-cdc5dedb9322 sdb9322 
 +  cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/disk/by-uuid/d353e727-…-e4d66a9b8a33 sdc8a33 
 +  cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/disk/by-uuid/352660ca-…-5a8beae15b44 sde5b44 
 +  cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/disk/by-uuid/fa1a6109-…-f46ce1cf8055 sdf8055 
 +  cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/disk/by-uuid/86da0b9f-…-13bc38656466 sdh6466 
 + 
 +This script simply opens each LUKS crypt so long as you enter or copy/paste your HD password 6 times. After that, one has to re-mount the pool / rebuild the quasi RAID1 mirror/logical volumes with the import command as follows once the volumes are opened: 
 + 
 +  zpool import pool 
 +  
 +Rebooting in this manner takes about 3-5 minutes for the host, and 2 minutes to screen into my user name, detach, and run the mount LUKS script to mount the pools/datasets, etc. Again, I ultimately rejected this because you cannot use zfs tools when hard drives fail with this setup.
  
- --- //[[jonathan@haacksnetworking.com|oemb1905]] 2021/11/04 15:15//+ --- //[[jonathan@haacksnetworking.org|oemb1905]] 2022/11/12 12:39//
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